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Vaga · Mar 07, 2006, 10:33 AM // 10:33

Those items are great, theres no denying it. I'm just hoping when factions comes out they come up with an alternative of some sort, I really don't understand why these items where left in the game, but I wouldn't be complaining if I had or could afford the HoD items.

Hockster · Mar 07, 2006, 10:43 AM // 10:43

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Originally Posted by Nightwish

Of course as efficient as Anet is, there is bound to be grinding of some sort, but 500 ectos..thats like way beyond minor grinding =__=

30 seconds on fleabay.

Where most of this stuff comes from anyway. Everyone knows it, but they're afraid to say it.

Eet GnomeSmasher · Mar 07, 2006, 11:03 AM // 11:03

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Originally Posted by Nightwish

The point of this thread is probably to promote the items and alleviate their prices

Bingo. I just happend to see "I am Vanquisher" selling the HOD sword for 500 ectos in LA yesterday and miscellaneous other very very high priced items.

I can't fault Vanquisher for trying to promote these items though. If he can get 500 ectos plus hundreds more for his other items, he's set for (GW) life.

Vanquisher · Mar 07, 2006, 04:18 PM // 16:18

Hey - I'm fine with not selling it. I use it on every character I run in PvP, but if I were to sell it I'd want 500 Ecto, purely because that's what I price it at. Similarly, I'd buy any for 500 Ecto if someone wanted that much.

Oh, and for the record, I sold it for that much in the end.

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Originally Posted by Hockster

30 seconds on fleabay.

Where most of this stuff comes from anyway. Everyone knows it, but they're afraid to say it.

Not really. Someone in Nu happened to grab around 5 of them when they were still around, seeing them being useful. He's quit the game though, and given some to his friends/guildmates.

The reason the prices are high is because of the lack of supply, and that's mainly there because everyone could get them while they were in the game, and crafted them whenever they needed one. No one gave a thought they'd be getting removed, so didn't mind deleting them from PvP characters (as constantly happened).

twicky_kid · Mar 07, 2006, 06:23 PM // 18:23

The only way I'd use the HoD sword is if I needed the enchant mod on a switch. Otherwise I'm going to be using a +5>50 10% recharge wand.

The axe is the only thing that really has an edge. If sheild upgrades are added then the price on that axe is really going to sky rocket.

JR · Mar 07, 2006, 06:26 PM // 18:26

The HoD sword has always been massively over-rated. The +5 energy bonus from it isn't worth much at all. Having a slightly larger energy pool does next to no good for you.

ZennZero · Mar 07, 2006, 06:30 PM // 18:30

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Originally Posted by Savio

I'm slightly curious as to what happened to the other Denravi weapons, like the Denravi bow. Since I haven't heard much I'm guessing they don't have enough utility or there aren't enough still around to make headlines.

I actually have the HoD bow. The novel thing about it (as I am sure you know) is the unconditional +10ar. With a +5 defence grip, you essentially have a +15ar no-requirement shield that can be used to aggro at range (its a longbow).

Perhaps not as widely appealing as the HoD sword, but I find it very helpful and use it all the time as my pulling/non-combat bow. Also, I suspect you are right about there not being enough of them around to generate the kind of interest that these other items have.

Rukmedes · Mar 07, 2006, 10:58 PM // 22:58

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Originally Posted by JR-

The HoD sword has always been massively over-rated. The +5 energy bonus from it isn't worth much at all. Having a slightly larger energy pool does next to no good for you.

I run full judges and a FFS +30 HP and a Stonehart. I barely get mana problems unless there is TWO dom mesmers on me. I can handle one. Weapon switch is so win

drunken bishop · Mar 08, 2006, 02:14 AM // 02:14

Basically the main post said this "these items are good and should be worth more than they are (in most cases)." Yes, they are good, i'll agree, and it's cool to have rare items in the game that can no longer be aquired. However, Anet seems to be pretty hard up for balanced pvp, so I'd be surprised if there wasn't something done at some point to balance things up (maybe factions, maybe later, maybe not because Anet doesn't seem them as overly imbalanced). These items were put in the game on purpose, so they can't be compared to the SoA axe (which was bugged, removed, and then globally nerfed). However, beware of anyone trying to jack up prices on ANY item before a major update.

I had a 20% enchant HoD sword that I was lucky enough to craft, and I sold it after a while because I just didn't think the advantage was worth it's value, and wanted to cash out before something happened.

Again, who knows if anything will happen - not even the alpha testers, because the devs can change things at any time. I guess what i'm saying is - if you don't have these items yet and want them - bargain for the fairest price you can get, but with anything in this game, know that one change could drastically change values. Those that were heavily invested in gold weapons before greens came out took a large hit, as did anyone who spent hundreds of plat making SoA axes before they got nerfed. As always - buyer beware.

Vanquisher · Mar 08, 2006, 04:36 AM // 04:36

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Originally Posted by drunken bishop

However, beware of anyone trying to jack up prices on ANY item before a major update.

The major update just happened. Clearly this is not the case - especially as I bought 2 HoD Axes for 950 Ecto (in a pair) earlier today.

Tortoise · Mar 08, 2006, 04:45 AM // 04:45

My 2 pence:

HoD sword: in some builds it has a little edge on other equipment but even when it is the 'best' the only gain is 2 energy. Most of the time you're better off with an extra +20 recharge on your energy management skill though.

HoD axe: good when facing spikes. It can make a difference and that's why it is pricy. In my personal opinion it is better then the HoD sword but once again the difference is rather small.

Fiery Flame Spitter: with the current OoB nerf I think the fiery flame is even better then it used to. The extra +15% recharge on my MoR is something I like and I'm probably gonna get me one. The fiery flame is in my personal opinion the best of the three.

And now my final point: equipment helps but it isn't the equipment that is gonna decide whether you make it to rank 100+ or not. War Machine was running sub optimal equipment during the world championship. It didn't stop them reaching the finals... I honestly don't believe any of the matches during the GWWC were lost or won because of HoD swords or HoD axes. Spent the money if you really haven't gotten anything other to spend it on.

stickyballs · Mar 08, 2006, 04:56 AM // 04:56

i thought ALL FFS were changed to 10%, but if I c a 15% ill no it still exists i guess

Rukmedes · Mar 08, 2006, 05:23 AM // 05:23

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Originally Posted by stickyballs

i thought ALL FFS were changed to 10%, but if I c a 15% ill no it still exists i guess

Just like HoD.

Anet cannot get rid/change an item that was already in the game.

Savio · Mar 08, 2006, 05:26 AM // 05:26

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Originally Posted by Rukmedes

Just like HoD.

Anet cannot get rid/change an item that was already in the game.

Well, they did with SoA axes and Lt's Helms, but I guess that so far they don't see FFS's and the others as a big enough problem.

drunken bishop · Mar 08, 2006, 04:22 PM // 16:22

The "major update" I was referring to is factions - not this recent skill patch.